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I am beyond tired of this.
Sep. 30th, 2010 10:40 amYesterday, I got a phone call that consisted of nothing but a recorded message saying that I should call so-and-so at such-and-such number. No company name, nothing regarding what the call was about. I figured it was a scam and just hung up.
They called back today. I called them back. Turns out it was somebody looking for my mother. A Google search of the number brings up references to a pushy collections agency that was looking for my mother in the past.
Last time, I gave them her number and told my mother they'd be calling. She later told me that she called them back, pretended to be me, and told them that whoops, "I" just remembered that the number I gave them was my mother's old phone number and I didn't remember the new one.
I told my mother that under no circumstance was she to commit fraud in my name again.
I've confronted her numerous times in the past about all her creditors and collectors mysteriously getting my phone number when they try to call her. The calls from her bank were one thing, because we bank with the same company and we have a joint account so she can easily transfer money to me when needed. (Must remember to change that to a single account soon...) So I can almost see how they could have made the logical leap to call me, because my name and number are attached to an account she also has access to. But they called a lot. After being told repeatedly that this was not, and never had been, a number at which she could be reached. It wasn't until I left them a message threatening legal action for harassment that they stopped calling here.
Then companies started calling for her which I had no connection to at all. Like these collection companies. Who shouldn't be calling for her at all if she actually did what she said she did and filed for bankruptcy. She says she doesn't give out my number. I can't believe her.
I can't even give her the benefit of the doubt and assume that these companies are looking in the phone book and calling everyone with the same last name as my mother, because the home phone number is listed under Rei's name and not mine. There's no way they should be getting my number and thinking it's a way to contact her unless she's the one giving it to them.
And lying about it to me. She dodges credit card companies and collectors all the time. I've seen her do it. She took her name off her answering service, screens calls, and sometimes even answers the phone and says they called a wrong number. I wouldn't put it past her at all to give them my number in an effort to hold off having to deal with them for another day.
I don't know why. She knows very well that I won't stand for that.
But this collector has her number now. She can deal with them.
But the real kicker came when I looked through my emails after having sent her that message. She sent me one saying that she noticed I had money in my bank account now, and could I please pay her back some of the money I've borrowed over the past few months.
The money only went in today. It's money I've been waiting about 2 months for, is my tax return, and I need it for rent and groceries because I have no other source of income until I find a job. She is often heard to brag that it takes only one of her paycheques to cover her monthly expenses, and the second paycheuqe is hers to do with as she pleases. (It doesn't please her to pay off her credit card bills, of course.) But she asks me within minutes of the money going through if I can pay her back the $80 she apparently so desperately needs. That $80 I owe is slightly more than I get every 2 weeks from EI, that I have to make stretch for groceries when we need more than that anyway.
It drives me nuts that she can't see that I'm in a lousy financial situation here. All she sees is that I miraculously have money, and that she wants it.
... She just called me, actually, and swore that she hadn't given my number to anyone. She sounded angry that I accused her. When I reiterated my evidence that she had, that there's really no other way for people to get this number to contact her (pointing out that the number's listed under Rei's name, for example), she suddenly sounded more contrite. I said that it was obviously a collector because they didn't leave a company name and so couldn't be dodged as easily, and pointed out that they should be calling for her at all if she'd filed for bankruptcy, and she sounded even more contrite. Especially when I told her that I was sure it was the company who called last time when she pretended to be me to get them off her back.
She said she'd call them and sort it out and even threaten them if they keep calling me. It isn't her who should threaten them. It's me who should threaten her. She admitted to causing fraud in my name before. She's a known debt-dodger, a known liar. Hell, I could have charged my own mother with invasion of privacy when she insisted on opening all of my bills years ago because she "was curious." She has no sense of boundaries and little sense of decency and responsibility, I'm sad to say.
I really hope that she's telling the truth when she says she's not giving my number to anyone. But I really can't see any feasible way that all these companies would get my number and think they can reach her here.
[Edit] - Oho! She called me back to let me know how that call went, and how irate she got with them about how they can't keep calling me, etc. She asked them where they got my number in the first place, and apparently they said that she gave it to them, though she followed that with the stunning rebuttal of, "But there's no reason for me to have given you that number."
Yeah, because saying she has no reason completely means she didn't do it.
What I was particularly interested in was her comment of, "I don't use you as a cover anymore." Anymore?! That sounds an awful lot like an admission to having done it in the past, and unless she's talking about the time she pretended to be me, that means she just admitted to having lied not only to various credit companies but also to me.
They called back today. I called them back. Turns out it was somebody looking for my mother. A Google search of the number brings up references to a pushy collections agency that was looking for my mother in the past.
Last time, I gave them her number and told my mother they'd be calling. She later told me that she called them back, pretended to be me, and told them that whoops, "I" just remembered that the number I gave them was my mother's old phone number and I didn't remember the new one.
I told my mother that under no circumstance was she to commit fraud in my name again.
I've confronted her numerous times in the past about all her creditors and collectors mysteriously getting my phone number when they try to call her. The calls from her bank were one thing, because we bank with the same company and we have a joint account so she can easily transfer money to me when needed. (Must remember to change that to a single account soon...) So I can almost see how they could have made the logical leap to call me, because my name and number are attached to an account she also has access to. But they called a lot. After being told repeatedly that this was not, and never had been, a number at which she could be reached. It wasn't until I left them a message threatening legal action for harassment that they stopped calling here.
Then companies started calling for her which I had no connection to at all. Like these collection companies. Who shouldn't be calling for her at all if she actually did what she said she did and filed for bankruptcy. She says she doesn't give out my number. I can't believe her.
I can't even give her the benefit of the doubt and assume that these companies are looking in the phone book and calling everyone with the same last name as my mother, because the home phone number is listed under Rei's name and not mine. There's no way they should be getting my number and thinking it's a way to contact her unless she's the one giving it to them.
And lying about it to me. She dodges credit card companies and collectors all the time. I've seen her do it. She took her name off her answering service, screens calls, and sometimes even answers the phone and says they called a wrong number. I wouldn't put it past her at all to give them my number in an effort to hold off having to deal with them for another day.
I don't know why. She knows very well that I won't stand for that.
But this collector has her number now. She can deal with them.
But the real kicker came when I looked through my emails after having sent her that message. She sent me one saying that she noticed I had money in my bank account now, and could I please pay her back some of the money I've borrowed over the past few months.
The money only went in today. It's money I've been waiting about 2 months for, is my tax return, and I need it for rent and groceries because I have no other source of income until I find a job. She is often heard to brag that it takes only one of her paycheques to cover her monthly expenses, and the second paycheuqe is hers to do with as she pleases. (It doesn't please her to pay off her credit card bills, of course.) But she asks me within minutes of the money going through if I can pay her back the $80 she apparently so desperately needs. That $80 I owe is slightly more than I get every 2 weeks from EI, that I have to make stretch for groceries when we need more than that anyway.
It drives me nuts that she can't see that I'm in a lousy financial situation here. All she sees is that I miraculously have money, and that she wants it.
... She just called me, actually, and swore that she hadn't given my number to anyone. She sounded angry that I accused her. When I reiterated my evidence that she had, that there's really no other way for people to get this number to contact her (pointing out that the number's listed under Rei's name, for example), she suddenly sounded more contrite. I said that it was obviously a collector because they didn't leave a company name and so couldn't be dodged as easily, and pointed out that they should be calling for her at all if she'd filed for bankruptcy, and she sounded even more contrite. Especially when I told her that I was sure it was the company who called last time when she pretended to be me to get them off her back.
She said she'd call them and sort it out and even threaten them if they keep calling me. It isn't her who should threaten them. It's me who should threaten her. She admitted to causing fraud in my name before. She's a known debt-dodger, a known liar. Hell, I could have charged my own mother with invasion of privacy when she insisted on opening all of my bills years ago because she "was curious." She has no sense of boundaries and little sense of decency and responsibility, I'm sad to say.
I really hope that she's telling the truth when she says she's not giving my number to anyone. But I really can't see any feasible way that all these companies would get my number and think they can reach her here.
[Edit] - Oho! She called me back to let me know how that call went, and how irate she got with them about how they can't keep calling me, etc. She asked them where they got my number in the first place, and apparently they said that she gave it to them, though she followed that with the stunning rebuttal of, "But there's no reason for me to have given you that number."
Yeah, because saying she has no reason completely means she didn't do it.
What I was particularly interested in was her comment of, "I don't use you as a cover anymore." Anymore?! That sounds an awful lot like an admission to having done it in the past, and unless she's talking about the time she pretended to be me, that means she just admitted to having lied not only to various credit companies but also to me.